The hybrid vigor is hard to miss on these robust plants. In spring the foliage emerges chocolate-red, a trait that comes from the seed parent, Eupatorium perfoliatum 'Milk and Cookies'. The differences are glossy leaves and the whole plant is larger, growing four feet plus on sturdy stems. If you want pollinators and butterflies, this is your plant! From August into September the plant is a magnet. It would be nice with vernonia selections. Plant and enjoy. Full sun; any soil.